April 10, 2023 Design Review Board and Port of San Francisco Waterfront Design Committee Meeting

1. Call to Order and Meeting Procedure Review
2. Staff Update
3. Ferry Building and Ferry Plaza Alterations in the City of San Francisco, San Francisco County (First Pre-Application Review) (PDF)
   The Design Review Board and Port Waterfront Advisory Committee will hold their first pre-application review of the proposal by Hudson Pacific Properties to make interior and exterior alterations to the San Francisco Ferry Building and Ferry Plaza at various locations along the ground floor and the building site.
   (Katharine Pan) [415/352-3650 katharine.pan@bcdc.ca.gov]
   Exhibit 
4. Adjournment

Meeting Summary

Transcript:

Okay, much delay. Thank you for joining us tonight, for the joint.

Bcdc. Design, review, board and port, waterfront Advisory Committee meeting.

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Okay. Thank you, Ashley. My name is Jacinda Mccann, and I’m the chair of the Bcdc.

Design Review Board. I’m looking at the Metro center in San Francisco, and our meeting will include participants who are here and also those who are participating online.

And I do want to apologise. We’re a few minutes late, because this is a a joint meeting, and there have been lots of technical.

But we are getting started now for anyone who been patiently holding on and dialed in.

So thank you. So our first daughter of business is to call the Role Board members.

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After responding, Ashley, can you call the roll?

Chair, Mccann, Vice chair, string board, member Battalion.

Present Board, Member Hall, present Board, Member Leader.

Present.

Board member Pellegrini.

Present.

For the waterfront Design Advisory Committee.

This is and ode I’m going to call role as well.

Laura, Crescento.

Present Catherine Moore, present.

Present. Thank you.

Okay, thank you, Dan, and thank you. Ashley. We have a quorum present.

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And now the Board Secretary will provide a start updates.

Thank you. Chair. Mccann, I do have a couple quick updates for tonight.

Reminder. If you have not completed your form, 700.

It was due April third, so please do so soon.

Staff updates, I’d like to welcome our newly appointed Bay design Analyst yuriko Jewett Eureko has a background in urban design and planning, and has been working at the principal waterfront planner for Bcdc and previously

presented to this board during her time as the shoreline development permit. Analyst.

Coming up with the Commission. There will be a combined working group meeting for rising sea level and financing the future.

As the morning of May eighteenth, the slide deck, from A the April sixth meeting is available on our website.

The board is encouraged to join and ask questions. The zoom link is also available on the BCDC.

Website. Our next meeting is scheduled for Monday, May eighth, and will be a hybrid meeting here at Metro Center.

We’ll be reviewing a proposal researching development site in Belmont, and that concludes the Bcdc staff update.

I’ll pause here to answer any questions from the board.

Thanks, Ashley, great report because I’m so excited that you is part of the team so welcome, and we’re thrilled to have in the team.

The team? Does anyone have any questions?

Okay. Hearing none iphone, I will turn it over to Dan Hodup for the port staff update.

Thank you. Ashley and Chair Mccann to Rwdac members is great, and DRB.

Members great to see you again in our waterfront design.

Review, the Wdas. Meets when a project reaches a level defined in the city code, requiring review by this, and due to many factors not occurred for nearly 3 years.

The longest break in the history. Of the committee. By far the port welcomes the new hybrid process for the public that we will be using today will encourage public participants more so than the past.

Please note that for city committees members are required to attend in person need for reasonable accommodation.

The Wdac waterfront design, advisory may see other projects.

This here the piers. 33 proposal, if it it moves forward and a waterfront resilience program presentation.

See wall adaptation. Please look forward to updates on these projects.

And that concludes my comments at this. Are there any questions from?

Thank you. Chair, Mckinnon. Thanks, Dan. We’ll move to a public comment period.

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So if there’s anyone in the room who has a comment on this part of the meeting, form a line at the podium.

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Show your hands.

We have no public comments online. Very good. And for anyone from the public attending online, I just want to remind you there will be another point for public comment.

Review of the project. Okay? So we now move on to the next agenda item, which is the first review of proposed alterations at the Ferry Building and the Ferry plaza.

This is a gender. Item 4. And, as I mentioned, it is the first, and we’re going to follow the following order of reviewing the project, so we’ll start with introductions to the project.

By the Bcdc. Import staff. That will be followed by the project proponents.

Presentation, and then we’ll follow that with the Board and Committee clarifying questions on the presentation. We’ll then move to a public comment period, and then we will move to the Board and committee discussion and summary, and then we will conclude with the project proposed proponent and that’s a brief response.

And so with that the BCDC. Permanent analysts.

And is so I’ll head to cast.

Thank you. Chair Mccann, and good evening board members.

I’m Katherine Pan, the shoreline development program manager, and I’ll be introducing tonight’s project for BCDC.

Before I do, I would like to remind the project, team and staff to please turn on your video when you’re speaking or answering questions.

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Now this is the first review of the Ferry building, and very plaza alterations project in the city and county of San Francisco.

The, the proposed project is likeated in the ferry building, or at the ferry building, a landmark on the San Francisco waterfront, where Market Street meets the embarcadero just south of pier, one the ferry building is an active ferry terminal

and provides vary access to and from Angel Island and north and East Bay Destination.

This site is covered by BCDC. San Francisco waterfront.

Special area plan and is part of the plant’s northeastern waterfront geographic area.

The ferry building is home to a variety of commercial and office uses, and at the edge of the and at the edge of the Yacidis financial district, in downtown area, is surrounded by many similar uses as well as the waterfronts extensive public recreation and access, in.

We’d like to acknowledge that the project site is in the ancestral territory.

Of the Yaleamu people of the Ramatush Aloni, we offer gratitude to the indigenous peoples who are the original stewards of the bountiful natural resources of the Bay area.

The area around a ferry building in Berry closet is covered by a number of existing BCDC.

Permits, each with its own public access, conditions resulting in a layering of different access requirements I’ll summarize these briefly to provide contexts for some of the changes being proposed, as well.

As some surrounding access connections, as a disclaimer.

What we’re about to show is our best understanding of where these access areas are located, based on our review of permit files and exhibits in some cases there still may be some questions as to the exact extent of the access areas which will continue to research and work through with the project proponents.

So when we talk about the fairy plaza, we’re referring to this open area on the bay side of the variable.

With open area on the bay side of the ferry building, enclosed by the Golden Gate Ferry Terminal, and this restaurant structure.

All of this is located on the ferry platform, which is also known as the Bart Platform, which is also authorized by permit 1,967.

The permit required public access on the perimeter of the platform not required for any ferry operations, but the area wasn’t specified in any permit.

Exist.

Permit 1973010 authorize the Restaurant and the Golden Gate Ferry Terminal, and required access around the restaurant building as well as on areas of the ferry terminal that could be used for public access consistent with very operations the area around the terminal is also not depicted in any permanent exhibit.

Permit, 1998 was for a number of roadway improvements along the Embarcadero and for the meeting.

Metro. It required the dedication of public access area for the embarcadero promenade between Broadway and Harrison’s Amendment 6 approved in 2,007 authorized the use of a portion of the dedicated access area to be used for outdoor dining, and these are the 30 foot Wide Cafe market zone shown on either side of the entry portico.

Permit, 199707. Authorize additional fills for North and South Ferry portal.

A publicly accessible sheep pile, breakwater, and the promenades around the ferry building, as well as a demolition of pier.

One half the access area is required by the permit include the new northeast and south promenades.

Pr. 14. The Breakwater, and a concourse through the ferry building.

As a legibility. Note, exhibit A of the permit shows that there is a space between the ferry building and the wedge of public Access reserved along the southern side of the ferry building.

It’s not clear in this visual, due to the end of the area.

But that’s the image there!

So permit 2,000 0 one. Authorize the ferry building rehabilitation project and the use of the ferry plaza for the pharmacy.

The East promenade was expanded to provide continued uncovered access along the promenade.

As the rehab second floor expansion would cover the existing portion.

The required public access includes includes the east promenade space to 10 foot wide, pass through through the ferry building improvements to the path through entrances, ground floor, public restrooms, 24 bike parking spaces and a ferry closet.

And then permit 201601, authorize new gates for the Wida San Francisco Bay ferries south of the ferry Plaza, and included public access conditions for the Embcadero Plaza, or the Wida Paza and a Bayside Promenade connecting the new Farie

gate. These areas are outside the scope of the current project.

But we’re including this information so that you’re aware of these closely connected uses.

Immediately adjoining the project site.

I’m sure most, if not all, of you, are already quite familiar with the ferry building in Plaza.

But here’s some contextual photos to Orient.

You and help you visualize current conditions at the site.

And these photos are all taken on a weekday morning, actually.

So here’s the North Cafe Zone in ourcade, and here you can see it’s very end got outdoor seating area.

The North pass through entrance, and they’re in the process of setting up additional outdoor seating in the Cafe zone.

Then the North Arcade here is used by a variety of commercial key.

And then here’s the South Cafe Slash Market Zone, with the wine merchant seating area and South Pass through, and the South Arcade, which is mainly used for storage and farmers. Market operation.

And then here’s the area on the south side of the ferry building which provides access for both pedestrians and vehicles for the ferry plaza, and here you can see the access or the area reserved for public access along the drive aisle that’s also used by delivery

and service vehicles, and these cones and barriers here are, I believe, used to control vehicle access in this area.

And then here’s part of the East facade at the very building and you’re looking at is the exit from the central breezeway and the seating area below the cantilevered second floor.

And this area would be part of the proposed Bay front kitchens concept.

Here’s some additional views of the East Promenade.

I can see it’s quite active this morning.

And then here’s just 2 quick views of a crowd arriving at the plaza from the Golden Gate ferry.

So these are pedestrians in cyclists, like a good number of cyclists, all making their way to the south side of the building through the plaza.

And then here are some views of the ferry plaza itself versus a view from the South promenade, where you can see a lot of the existing furnishings, including the 30 tables that were put in place during the pandemic this one up here is from the

Gandhi statue, facing towards the south side of the building, and then the bottom right is a view of the space on the north side of the plaza, next to the Golden Gate Ferry terminal.

We’re facing east towards the restaurants. Sure.

So here’s where our community vulnerability mapping tool showed us about the area downtown.

San Francisco is a densely populated diverse community, and the decreases of social and contamination.

Vulnerability indicated by the tool covered a really broad range, generally speaking, indicators associated with higher social, vulnerability in the areas near the ferry building include renter, occupancy, and no vehicle ownership as well as some combination of limited English perficiency very

low income, no high school degree, disability, individuals over 65 living alone, non-us citizens and people of color.

And then regarding potential C level rise, using current site elevations.

This map shows what 24 inches of sea level rise would look like if the site remained unchanged.

Using the Ocean Protection Council’s 2,018 sea level rise guidance 24 inches of sea level rise is equivalent to the mean higher high water level under the medium to high-risk aversion.

High emissions scenario at mid-century and at this level there is potential for some flooding. During a 100 year. Storm event.

And then this shows what 66 inches this year the sea level rise would look like at the site if it was unchanged.

This roughly corresponds to the mean higher high water level.

At 2,090, in the medium to high risk, aversion, high emissions, scenario as well as 100 year storm, condition in mid-century, and in this scenario the project site and much of the waterfront would be inundated.

So before I pass this over to Port Staff, I’d like to quickly summarize the questions in the staff.

Report that we’d like the Board to consider in your review.

First, please consider how this project meets the public access objectives provided in Bcdc’s public access design guidelines, and then staff has identified some specific questions we’d like to ask the Board about the design at this stage.

These are one. How does the project proposal result in public spaces that feel public?

And does the project proposal allow for the shoreline to be enjoyed by the greatest number of people?

2. Do the alteration sufficiently maintain or enhance connectivity, and along the shoreline are the enhancements compatible with the existing structures and uses in the area.

And are there any potential uses or concerns to be mindful of as the concept develops?

3. Does the enclosure of the private dining areas on the east promenade for the bayfront kitchens and Hampsh activation and support inviting usable public access areas.

And is it necessary to enclose a private dining area?

4. Are the alterations of the ferry plaza, sufficiently flexible to accommodate the variety of proposed programming while maintaining usable public access for existing user, groups.

5 are the improvements proposed for the ferry plaza likely to be successful in attracting additional visitors to the space during non-market days.

Afternoons and evenings. 6. What additional details about the programming of the perimeter easement activation zone and the South Promenade are needed to understand the potential for use conflicts, circulation issues, and benefits for public access?

And 7. Are there any additional improvements that could improve the public access? Experience?

Alright. So I wanna take a moment to check to see if the Board has any clarifying questions for me on anything presented in this staff Introduction.

Any questions?

Oh, thank you. So I was reading the staff report, and it says that the peer says the ground elevation is plus 11 feet and a Bd.

Which is the same as the base flood elevation. And that’s sounds about right. I thought the peer deck might have been a little higher than that.

Is that correct? So that’s based on the elevation shown in the exhibits.

And then also checking the base. What all elevation through the.

So that’s the best information we have. Thank you.

Thomas Stephan any questions, clarifying questions, no.

Gary.

Look. I have one question I know it’s not part of this immediately.

Plaza there are 2 buildings, the building that has but vince, and then the.

You remind me who is the who owns those buildings, or who is landlord for those 2 buildings?

Believe? Is it the port? Yes, alright, Dan can be fine. Hi, Dan!

Howodap with the port of San Francisco.

Those are controlled by the port they were previously leased out that they’ve been returned to the port.

The port plans actually going under contract with a broker to find a user.

For the restaurant site. The one story portion I’m hoping to do that this year for app.

The term on that, not expecting large capital.

So that’s good to anticipate that use coming forward again, and the circulation that might be a sort.

And the other building is really a very active. There is a building just sits on the north side of it that contains some infrastructure on the ground level, and it does contain a on the top level.

A second story is a large dining, somewhat of a banquet facility.

Could also be lead.

That’s an option on that.

Okay, thank you, Dan. While we’re on the subject, it did mention somewhere there was mentioned structure upgrades in that area.

Can you describe what those are?

Dan again Future Infrastructure upgrades are largely going to be about sea level rise, adaptation, and I think, looking at of 11, the impacts at 24 inches were not significant.

Unless you.

That really the low spot on the waterfront. So the future infrastructure would have to do.

How do we protect the ferry Building ferry building?

Was to be a very high cultural value, and and the waterfront resilience program went through very extensive outreach.

Addaptation measures are being developed.

The peer enjoys being one of the possibly the last meeting your peer construct out on the same.

Cisco waterfront better condition that many of that are part of the historical.

The peer behind the building is not part of the.

Great. Thank you. No more questions.

Thank you. So now I pass it back over to Dan Hodap from the port of San Francisco to present the port staff report.

Dan Hodap again regarding the Ferry building project before you this evening, Hudson, the leaseholder, of the ferry building and site area, will be represented by Carl Cade, who will introduce the project and design team and then the proposed.

Project the waterfront Design Advisory Committee staff report includes a waterfront.

Excuse me. A waterfront plan policy analysis as appendix, A, of which staff provided an assessment of those policies.

Please observe the presentation, and ask questions regarding the proposal, and or of any of the policies Committee is not obligated to re review the many policies, but may want to focus on policies where you want clarification proposal meets.

Does. In addition to the questions that Catherine just went through, examples of questions could include, how the collection of improvements, respect and contribute to the character of the ferry building and its environs, how the proposal enhances or impacts pedestrian circulation and views of the building.

Do the improvements enhance the historic, very building.

Do the improvements work together as a cohesive collection.

We welcome your input and recommendation, which, following conclusion of the review process, are forward to the Port Commission and City Planning Commission.

That concludes my comments. Are there any questions on those before I introduce?

Seeing none. I’d like to introduce Carl Cade.

Oh, I’m sorry!

I had a question. My question is, see a certain amount of public access being we commission for other users.

Do we have any numbers to see your what’s being taken?

Second part of my question is as good I personally observe a significant increase in ferry building riders that Hazel could in the last 4 or 5 years.

There’s actually almost congestion on the common promenade people rushing with their bicycle.

So by foot to catch a ferry, including seeing fairies being reassigned to a different booth, while you’re expecting to depart or arrive on one, you have to rush over to another, one which creates additional confusion and takes a lot of space relative to people rushing back and

forth do we have any metrics? The intensity of failure, use are we anticipating further increase in use as Treasury Island is being realized, and other uses along the bay?

A villain themselves toward a taxi, and for the water craft youth!

Those are both great questions. The public access quantity. Once I’m going to refer that to the development team to address that as they go through their presentation regarding us, the ferry system.

My numbers are a little bit old, but 5 years ago they were saying, looking at a tripling of ferry ridership.

Okay.

Treasure Island capacity bridges, and the improvements overall to the.

I don’t have the exact numbers, but your observation are.

Of course, put a real damper and ferry rider ship.

Running now I don’t have.

As to where they are compared to before the pandemic, but I know that.

Forecast being provided by the way. Emergency authority otherwise, are for that very significant.

Which is why the whole down.

If I may, my second group of questions speaks to open space as we are assigning specific functions to the parts of the around. The fare building.

Now, as the Plaza alteration suggests, I am wondering if we are adding additional base someplace, else, in order to uphold the principle of social and racial equity, because not everybody will be able to partake in the assigned spaces, as they are currently being.

Dan Hodap again. That’s a great perspective, to use when analyzing or evaluating the proposal that you are about to hear.

There are no offsite, public space, improvements being offered.

It’s all within the area. Another, slightly more deeper reaching question is a dialogue about urban design.

As we’re speaking about a more privatized use of what is basically a civic building, I have always perceived even the transformation of this of the ferry building as an effort to keep the civic nature of this building intact when it was historically a full-fledged transportation terminal

of ferry building. It was only bought transportation.

The incredibly fabulous historic of preservation.

A number of years ago created a public market out of it, and what is proposed today seems to shift a little bit more into the restaurant role food hall imageway.

And I’d be curious to hear how we are going to be able to uphold the civic nature of the building that includes the use of the arcades becoming more private and indeed taking a very civic component, as our arcade away.

The city city has few arcades. If you go to Bologna, Italy, or some of those places, you can walk like 50 kilometers of public arcades, which in certain types of weather is a wonderful experience, and I personally always use the our cage as such so I’m kind of curious

about emphasis on civic meaning of the building as it transforms itself under the current proposal.

I think that’s great input for our presenters. And I encourage Youtube address that as you go through.

And I think any other types comments about the proposal.

We should wait until post public comments, so that we don’t mix so. Thank you very much.

And with that I conclude my remarks and I’m handing it over to and Connors here.

Cause. Carl Cade just pointed at her. She’s sitting right next to him.

So, yeah, thank you, Dan, for that. Well, good evening, board members.

I’m Jane Connors. I’m the general manager of the Ferry building, and it’s been an honor to have been part of the ferry building team since its opening in March 22,003.

So it’s been almost. It’s been over 20 years.

So in the last 20 years we have learned that, being nimble and staying relevant is key to the Ferry building’s success.

The support. Hudson Pacific properties has provided in the last 3 years is a testament to our stewardship of and dedication.

To such remarkable building, and its diverse community of merchant office tenants and visitors throughout the pandemic.

The ferry building and ferry Plaza farmers, market State opened every day and introduced improvements, including opening the largest outdoor dining cafe in the city on the ferry plaza.

During the pandemic we worked with merchants to keep them open, through a generous rent relief program.

And we added many new merchants in the last 3 years, including reams, Red Bay Coffee, peaches, patties, and Chalita Linda.

Some who you will hear from today. The presentation you see today lays the groundwork for the Ferry Building’s future success, and I am pleased to introduce my colleague, Carl Kade, vice president of construction and development at Hansa Pacific who will introduce these Enhancements.

Thank you very much, Jane, as Jane mentioned, I’m Carl Cade.

I’m Vice President with Hudson Pacific here in our San Francisco office, a few blocks from where we speak, halfway to Jane’s office at the Ferry Building.

I wanted to start off by saying that since Hudson purchased the leasehold in 2018, with our partners at Allian’s, we have been very committed to partnering with Jane and her team at the building to the stewards of the ferry building

and it’s in its important role in this city and ensure the vitality in the vibrancy the city fabric of San Francisco today and in the future.

Today, the strong activity that we feel as we walk the Sunday market or shop in the nave during lunchtime is Testament to the resiliency of the merchants and the longtime patrons of the building.

We are pleased to announce that we are, in the final phase of a lengthy, significant restoration project, whereby we repaired the sought have been referring to the size and painting.

The exterior back to the original color that many of us have never.

So until today, finally today, we can say that we are proud to announce that the ferry building was recently awarded.

Weed 0 energy and 0 carbon certifications.

One of the first and only building to get both of those designs.

In the future, and with the enhancements we will present today, we will deliver a civic very plaza that draws people to experience this majestic and historic building.

The ferries and the waterfront. 7 days a week.

More merchant locations, with added infrastructure to support the merchants.

Cooking preparation, retail needs finally, indoor and outdoor seating that addresses some of the light wind cold that can be discouraging of visitors late in the day.

Hudson, San Francisco. Portfolio totals more than 2.5 million square feet.

We are fighting and investing in the urban life of this city.

And this project is a testament to that commitment we have been pleased to see our city partners willing in a year to join us in finding solutions to the challenges facing the ferry building and our city.

We’d like to thank the Port and Bcdc.

Staff for working with us. To prepare this presentation today.

Finally, it’s important to say that when we put together the team to even think about taking this on, we thought out first of all, a landscape architect in Einweller Keel, which is locally based and has a long term commitment in working with shared public space around the

Bayfront, and even more history with the building, I would say, would be Page in Turnbull, who served as the historic architect in the 2,003 renovation, and is now in this guise both our historic architect and our Mayor architect for the project with that i’d like

to introduce Lana Cochorovsky, principal at to take us through the project.

Thank you very much. Appreciate it. Commissioners support. I appreciate being here today listening to our presence.

I’m also proud to be part of the page internal team that has been involved with the ferry building since 1970.

When we first wrote the design re for about the building, and then continue. The work is preservation.

The approvals of the that turned this building into.

I am too!

We think.

Continue the legacy of the work today and invite.

So I would like to take you.

A quick overview this of our view. A number of historic images.

How many changes occurred?

Since it’s concerned.

And it’s it’s from the time when it became the most, the busiest transit.

The decline of that function in the 3, it became something.

And it will likely continue to change just to orient everyone with the work that we will be presented today.

A quick overview. The diagram shows.

Of the building alone in Barkende. The area that we called.

There is, are improvements planned on the pay size, with the.

Both interior and exterior, and of course talking a lot today. But.

So next slide the site plan and.

Sarah, Q.

Thank you, Lana. It is a real pleasure to be here, and I.

A little humbled by this opportunity to tell you the truth, this is a really important project.

Cisco, but also really for the entire region. It is where I take my relatives when of town, a lot of us view this as a civic destiny.

Great things to eat, and so as we’ve thought about contributing to the legacy of the devout, about a lot of the changes that’s happened in the last 20 years, and there’s some obvious ones, I think, like Zoom mobility and Pandemic I also want to call attention.

Plaza, which used to be water. And so the relationship.

The water also used to be from a site planning perspective than it is today.

And that’s really helps us to organize, are thinking out where to work and what.

The project is a balancing act right? And so our work is primarily focused on Southend of the building and the ferry plaza.

There is a little bit of work that’s being done.

And in some ways we started from what’s already working.

And so so the farmers market that happens here on Saturdays is one of the times when very plausibly.

Make your way from the embarcadero and find it.

You can get turned around or pathways to go. And so that became a way to sort of start thinking about what wasn’t working other days.

As we looked at the site circulation on Saturday there was a clear way to move along when you exited.

This building is the sort of obvious that there was a passage.

The south. It was also clear that they were an invitation, and bcadero. And so, as we thought about what we.

Be sure, the circulation of.

To work, but also to solve this problem on where to go.

Next slide.

In some ways this diagram, which?

A a layer over the tower itself. You arrive at the tower.

Everything you there crossroads there!

For us, adding, this that happens Saturdays is a crossroads.

The water, along the water’s edge, linking the very terminal back to the center of the building.

And we wanted to complete that circuit from the inside to the outside and welcome people from the ferry, but also the ferry.

Really thinking about this intersection?

Together next week? What?

So the site plan that I’ll present to you today.

I’m going to give you a quick overview here. And then I’m gonna in because a lot of the moves that we’re making are small scale. And it’s hard to see.

What you’re seeing is that we are drawing a line at the of the from the embarcadero out towards the water, trying to adjust to people that there.

The Ferry Plaza a non-market day.

The water, which is the new fairies. The South make that a bit like.

The water.

Alongside there, and there is a small effort being done on number where there is public dining, that Lao will talk to what I’m gonna.

The space a lot. The south side of the building at the back of Very plaza itself.

The circulation that we’ve been thinking about building our design out has been continuing to draw all of the transit, using that are happening here, continuing to.

People to, as well as to rush when they need to get somewhere to give you an intuitive inside and outside of the building. And honestly, one of the things I’ve learned while working on this, the paza has a lot of.

Very terminal, one very plaza and part facility.

Very pause. Those are all people who what’s happening outside work well for them about that, too.

Zooming in a little bit, so you can see the performance clearly.

This is along the south end, the building with the new yeah plaza, where we are proposing a line of lights from the embarcadero all the way on to the ferry plaza itself.

In this location side of the graphic paving and pattern that draws you out.

At Ferry Plaza. They’re on the south side, but it’s one the to draw you from.

Bcadero all the way on to very plaza.

In addition to okay, that’re seeing at Number One, a new gateway sign that has both wayfinding to give an address.

Very plausible as well as information.

Here and some way finding element, the embarcadero and the light.

Cornerstone Way, finding.

So that’s where to go.

This is a light touch. In some ways, I think there’s a lot that’s already working here.

And we is already a great asset. But we’re trying.

Next slide.

The palette of this is intended to the ferry building, and to complement the existing gate.

Architecture, but also.

The line and.

We know more conversations about exactly what color and exactly the.

To talk about those in.

But we also wanted to of clarify that the goal of this.

A section taken from the ferry building itself out to Weed Plaza.

You can see how there’s a space. Immediately the outside of the ferry building and the light pole with the banners.

The way that the sign is allowed trucks to pass under.

And fire trucks. The gateway and the walkway along.

The plaza, and I can clarify that the light polls on the north side align with the light polls on the south side, but are a different to do.

The program that we need them to in.

What that section continues out past the ferry building.

Water.

Level rise that was already present where we step down into the fire lane, and there’s new site furnishing.

The water promote waterfront feeding and view.

We’ve rotated the seating, instead of being south towards the ferry terminal.

The long view out to the water and to Treasure Island.

The poll lights and the edge of the plaza frame. Strong, new.

These are some renderings to give you a the size of the element.

The colors are here are mostly to make things legible rendering. There’s a.

The final colors. You see, is by adding the light poles and adding the signage.

Here, here, there’s a kind of procession or rhythm that yes, oh, there’s something out there.

There’s somewhere to go layer on what’s already working here next slide.

You can also see what that looks like on a market date where the are layered in. And we been talking with food, wise about how not to meet the location of light poles or other elements.

Being able to set up tents and no big tents are, and how things.

Have there, but the goal is to have this be a seamless overlay. Next.

And moving to the back plaza, you can see the same line of lights banners moving along the south edge of the plaza.

Here it’s pulling you back and making gesture.

You can furniture along the.

We’ve also clarified on the back plaza. There’s.

Gate, ferry are hopefully crossing to a restaurant at one ferry plaza.

So we know there’s a lot of move here. There’s a new kiosk element show.

Which would outdoor establishment that would have outdoor seating on the We’re really in that as a way to have eyes on platforms.

Some things that go on here.

That cause a lot of cleanup in the morning to have that element. The.

More about as a possibility.

And we’re also adding a strong edge to the plaza and dressing up grid of stripes them back by grinding them.

We’re really rehabbing the old great, partly of the carbon, partly because what we all need about, you know, the sea level rise in infrastructure.

The balance of feel like the right amount for right now, and a line of lights parallel to the and the colonnade along the ferry building gives that a strong edge as well.

Okay. As I mentioned, there are 3 possible sites that we studying for the Gandhi statue should have had on here a fourth, which is the remain we’re talking to a lot of people.

The San Francisco Arts Commission will need to weigh in is a lot more.

We have just flag to you that.

The materials on the back plaza are retreatment of the existing concrete, and a kind of texturization.

Get a very strong edge. These polls, a more modern kiosk to really cut the historic architecture, and then the most important thing about these vendors.

That they will be perfect for an outdoor environment.

So they won’t rest, and will be working, I think, with a lot of you.

Portable, but there’s a kind of gravitas palette that were proposed.

Forward place to feel that way. Next slide.

So these are some views of the proposal. This is a view south towards the bridge.

When when we first started this, the bay lights are up, and it was.

Stay out of line of the Bay bridge. The quieter bridge compared.

But I have a fondness for it. Wanted it to be the show here in some ways, and so the lights align, and you can see how they work with the column.

One aid describe a walking path on a non-market day.

And then how the market layers into the line of lights and the edge and the pathways that we have here next slide.

Then for the overall view of the back plaza, showing you how that new signage element, says Sherry Plaza, and there is some discussion, should say on this that we will to talk about, but gives you a threshold and a crossroads at that moment.

Can see the benches along the edge there, the graphic page you out towards the water, the grid that we’ve added and the that we added for activation sort of eyes on the plaza.

Next slide. You can see how we layer into market day, and can begin to imagine how, in addition.

Wonderful farmers. Other events to happen out here and have activation.

The other of the, and with that I’m going to pass it back to latter for the rest of the.

You very much great overview of the.

I’m gonna walk you quickly.

Areas of alteration.

So we have images by that.

Rendering, and really just building on with Sarah.

We’re proposing very light touch!

Knowing that is a huge sorry with the with the entrance portico.

All we’re trying to do is enhance the lighting quality and improved lighting.

You can see how, under the.

Improving, lighting, and in theiding people into the.

And moving along the embarcadero. This is the area that we’re calling the North.

We are expressing here in the rendering on the right the exterior structure for the being proposed there.

These are the lightweight metal structure that are very simple and completely independent.

From the building. The purpose of them is to provide accommodations for that would be needed for the patrons of the restaurants in the and they are designed to transparency through them and into the building facades next stage.

You can see them up close inside.

They will contain movable furniture, and that’s that’s for them to be utilized on market days.

Accommodate market tenth within them.

Nothing fixed in them that cannot be moved.

And we have some public seeing on onboard facing you.

The great activation strategy that we’re in.

Of the key, and the next image on the right gives you a peek into that area, would look the inside.

What is being proposed is glass in closure, that is.

We are proposing be able to.

Moveable glass will be completely moved and hidden behind the pilesters of the.

Only be closed in increment weather for a the restaurants are not upgrading, so night time.

The purpose here is also.

And be able.

See through, and and the quality.

On the bay side. So we are looking at the bayfront.

Area that planks the primary circulation.

See how we, removing the non.

3. By doing that, we’re opening it up and engaging the public, providing more training, transparency, and.

Or tenants pieces, opening up the view by taking the the storefront and moving it about 7 feet.

Closed 2 base adjustments.

To the way on the on the north, and one day on the right.

See.

Rendering in the purpose of this is to be able to maintain the same activity as today.

But be able to provide comfortable seating in inclement weather and.

Know in the last few months.

Usual weather pattern when it’s not really comfortable.

Keep outdoor. So you close the.

Provide a level of comfort to.

Would be otherwise, they would be open and.

They are not approaching onto the the public.

Stay behind the relocated 3 columns.

With that conclude our.

And let it just one thing. Just add, I think it’s important, because we cared deeply about it, that this project endeavors to maintain the dedicated public access ways through the building.

And so, for, like clarifications, the arcade areas are not dedicated.

Public access, they are subject to our port lease that allows visitors serving rather restaurants and retail uses, and we also worked closely to make okay through those arcades in the plan that you’d have a view shed that would allow to continue to let’s look down the length of

the arcade through the multiple restaurants. And so we can talk more detail about that.

The Cafe Zone does. I think Katherine mentioned in her presentation.

We’re dedicated under that 1998 permit, as a 30 foot wide portion.

But that promenade specifically called for outdoor dining and market use as an appropriate user.

Areas. And so we’re following that precedent finally and not so much about access, but about the historic standards.

Lotta and her colleagues have completed a Secretary of Interior Standards.

Analysis, and find this to be.

So important details. I wanted to make sure everyone has thanks for that.

The very helpful clarifications. So look with that.

We’ll move to public comment. And so, you know, the presentations hang on.

We will move to clarifying questions from the project present.

These clarified questions both?

The boards of the committee. So look just to with a lot of people here and some online.

So we’re just gonna go down the line here just for clarity.

So Bob, lead off any clarifying questions.

No no questions for me. Okay.

Yeah, lot. I was wondering if you could clarify on the East side under the canopy there, I noticed there are some pop-outs that are new.

Is that correct that are enclosed? And then I also want to understand the dropdown from the software.

There!

Sure. Thank you.

So does that demonstrate?

Here is the bay that is being. Yes, there is a so I says, down to for the.

Movable panels.

Inside of the of the base.

That area.

So that would be enclosed to the corner if you had shown it in its closed form.

That’s office. This dropdown marks the alright.

And then beyond, there’s those glass areas that are that is correct.

One another. Question. Leave room for others here. The I just want to understand where the farmers market is located. So it’s on the south side of the very building that correct, and it straddles the ferry buildings and is same amount of square footage.

Yeah, it’s on the south driveway and the plaza area here, near the sign that.

Is? Is it inside and outside the ferry building sign?

Pardon me, so it’s on the embarcadero side, and then the market area, and on the also on the same on the 2 front Embarcadero Plaza driveway, and very pleasant great. Thank you.

Okay. Yeah. Chris.

Thank you for that. In depth and very helpful presentation.

Just a few questions, Sarah, is it you said that the plaza isn’t working well for some of the neighbors?

Can you explain what some of those challenges are?

I heard from people. A lot of things happen in the.

You arrived just that up for an event.

In class. There’s a lot of things to out there as well that as you get further away from the ferry building, eyes on fall away. Okay? So.

You know, really this person’s space, and not?

And then you mentioned the kiosk was a way to kind of help mitigate.

Put some eyes on the street on the plaza. Would that be open at night, or what would the kind of evening programming be?

That’s probably a better question.

Yeah, I mean, ideally, we would have this and the whole building activated further into the evening I think you know, there are stages of success in that.

And if I think today, you know, the ferries actually go into the email, if we could have something if you miss your very, if we get back to a day of ferry traffic like the past where you might where the Golden Gate very may sell out, and you have to wait for the next, one it would be

nice, that that not be such a bad thing, because you can sit and have, you know, a beverage or snack while you wait, and look at one of the best views.

That it we have in the city. And so that’s sort of the idea.

Just one last question was, and I think it was Slide 28 that you had up before.

I was wondering. I’m not sure what the nature of sort of public spaces inside the building building and around it.

I think you know, outside, it’s fairly clear that those tables and shares are kind of spill out for the tenants, except on the west side.

There’s some sort of public seating, that’s popped up over time.

And then inside the ferry building. I think this portion you have here that purple is that kind of public access through.

But the wings off to each side of it, north and south, kind of act like a pose right now.

Kind of an indoor space, public space, and I was wondering if there are any sort of requirements for public user space or square footages, or anything like that, or a way that you’re thinking about kind of that public space inside the building.

Yeah, absolutely. I think, I mean, you’re right, that the area dedicated is and purple on there.

The area is next to it have been used in different ways over time, and our circulation.

I’m seating. Our plan is to actually have.

If you think of a kind of 2 by 2 matrix of dedicated non dedicated indoor and outdoor, seating more of all types of after this, and I think that gets to your colleagues point of how people can use different ways is that there were

be more. Yes, it will.

Restaurants, but there will also be.

Places where I think that can actually be the at the end zone, where you all were already experimenting with that.

Because once you’ve got your food from your merchant, you will find a place that in the building that’s helping drive traffic to those areas that are actually.

So just to be clear, is there sort of a commitment to a certain amount of square footage, or how do you sort of quantify that the most specific quantification in the Bcdc.

About outdoor seating, and when we are increasing that commitment report, we plan to exceed that beyond that.

But like having a little cushion, so.

Change. We still have a little, you know, as you know, different operations happen.

We haven’t yet documented a commitment internal, but.

Thank you.

Okay. We’ll just move to our online. dB, members.

Tom, your hands up! Go ahead!

Hi! Do you have a map of the plaza?

I just had kind of a overall question.

Just a moment.

Yeah, that backup one, that one. Wait! Wait! I want to just see the whole thing. There.

There’s it shows it shows the whole peninsula.

Yeah, here we go. So my question is probably not a helpful question, because I’m sure this is not part of your scope.

But should there be some consideration for the continuation of the design of the peninsula out to one for a plaza, very plasit email seems like we’re kind of setting up a precedent here along the south side.

And is there any consideration, or is there any body that is sort of engaged in thinking about the whole peninsula, including the rest of it?

There are kind of a phase 2. Or when that building has got a tenant, you know recommendation by this design con merge with what’s further to the east.

So yeah, we think about it all the time. We are deep.

I don’t think there’s anyone. Well, we’ll see.

Maybe there’s someone here more are invested in us and having a successful ferry plaza east.

Whoever ends up taking over the leasehold, and we will.

We look forward to being great partners, and yes, we do think that what we’re doing should extend and interact with that building.

Some of the things that you heard about today that are driving that include partly the idea of moving the Gandhi statute potentially on site would be drawn a direct line of sight from the primary door that just next to bullet today, right through the center of the plaza to the front

door of the Pyramid section of Ferry Plaza.

East, also allowing that’s one that’s that’s critically important.

But we also think that the placement of the kiosk which we are looking at various opportunities of where it can be to and from is so that it blocks the portion of the building that is, the park infrastructure and doesn’t block critically the future that will need site lines.

Okay, who’s the who’s the lean lord of this whole thing right now?

I guess I’m just curious who controls that.

The port of San Francisco, the port of San Francisco.

The port is the landlord.

Yeah, I guess the question kind of goes to the port. Then?

But I think I understand from standpoint of this applicant.

Thank you.

Thanks. Tom Stefan.

Thank you, Justintha, and thanks for all this helpful information tonight.

My first question was on regarding to page 33.

And my apologies. If I missed this. But the in this image, the delineation between the east west path in the plaza.

Sorry if you can go to Number 33, and packet, which is the.

Is the view of the first market plaza. Looking back at the server.

Are you referring to? Page 33 of the of the.

I’m looking at the page number in the lower right hand corner.

This one is page 28.

Thank you.

Define. I think the numbering is the sequence.

Oh, I see. Sorry I’m looking at that. Yeah, very pleasant looking north on marketing.

Sorry for the confusion.

Let’s see, elevated aerial right, that you.

Yeah. So I’m there. The drawing shows a red band between the walk and the plaza and I’m sorry if I missed that, that I was.

Could you just provide some additional information about that beyond? Is that actually a change in grade?

Is it a demarcation? If it’s just a materials change.

That is an existing curve that is painting painted red because of the fire department requirements.

Okay. And that’s the condition that it’s in today.

Yes.

Okay. And then the delineation of the crossbox across this space.

Are they actually there today? Or is this a proposal to continue to them across the service access?

There are 2 delineations there today, one on center with the south end of the ferry building and one at the promenade.

Uhhuh.

There is not a crosswalk today on the foreground of this image, where there is a ramp.

Okay? And then my next question has to do with.

The.

Proposed canopy structures on the front face of the building.

I was curious. If you could communicate how?

Tall. Those are intended to be.

Sure. Okay. Lot of customers. So I have the image right there.

That’s right.

Design to be approximately 15 foot so. But the primary criteria for us coming up with this.

Right below the water.

Uhhuh.

But it is designed to not interfere with the architecture.

At about 16 cats. It’s right under there, and it is tall enough to clear the view.

Okay, so type of the structures.

Great. Thank you. And then on this same page, I just there’s couple of things I wanted to make sure I understood the treatment under the arcaded portion of the building.

I understand that this is outside the public access, as we sort of look at it.

But is the intent that all of that becomes controlled access by restaurants when we see sort of the dashed line or the operable openings on the plan?

Are we to expect that the that entire logo could potentially be enclosed?

So the intent is that I couldn’t quite hear whether you were asking about the arcade or the space.

The Cafe Zone in front.

The Arcad. It’s.

Yeah. The intent is that the arcade is roughly to restaurants.

That the cafe zone in front of it has an area under the well.

Some of the area under the trellis that would be dedicated outside of market days, and then would be, and then there would be additional public seating in various locations.

Okay. But with regards to the list. Sorry. I’m sorry.

Yes.

That regards to the load just based itself, where you’re showing the glass and the glass and closed spaces.

Yes.

Is there? Is there any is okay? So none of that space, understanding that it’s outside of the public access Eement.

None of that space where you could pass through today would be allowed in the future.

Is, that.

That’s that’s correct. I mean, these are public establishment.

Okay.

But yes, I think the other thing we did preserve the view.

Corridor down the front that you get down there.

Okay. Dude.

But that was more of it. Good story!

Got it. Thank you. And then my last question is related to that, and just build on what?

What Kristen brought up with regards to the east-west Passage through the central core of the building.

I just I. It’s not clear from the renderings.

This is actually page 40 in the packet title, Pay front kitchens, I’m just curious about the the line that shown on the plans that is parallel to the public access email.

Is that sort of an enclosable partition. A long line is that bar.

Seating. What, what, what is proposed to delineate that space.

If anything, other than a tables in the future.

Yes, this is Lauda Katrowski. We’re looking at a number of options, and as.

Separating the public promenade from the tenants basis.

So what you see in the rendering potentially doors that are similar to Nana walls and something that expands and gets closed in the evening where and we’re looking at various systems that can provide that purpose.

But for during the daytime hours it is intended that these opening.

And have connectivity. The main circulation, the corridor, the design intent that we’re trying to solve.

For here, if you look at the before picture on the left, is that the heavy mullions and the glass systems are actually inhibiting the connection with the waterfront when you stand at this place, which is not only over the water, but actually quite close to the visibility, and so the intent here, is to

create when they’re open to the I mean several open spaces that minimize the amount of surface, be it glass or heavy mullion, so that you can stand there at the main cross section within the building and see how close and how connected you are the water.

Thank you for that. And just to clarify the space today at at the back, at the back is completely open to Kristin’s Point. Correct.

The last thing.

The the. The transfer does not extend across the back portion of the building today.

The Storyfront Module.

Sorry. Do you mean the transcend windows on either side, on the left, on the right?

Yeah, cause the space at the end of the building is actually open right before you go outside to the plaza.

That is, there is one day on.

And so you I think you’re thinking about enclosing that last big and reducing the size potentially reducing the size of that space.

Understanding that it would be a glass or transparent material.

But it would be introduced to that last bay.

Okay. Just I don’t have any other questions.

But thank you very much.

Hi! Lotta! I had curiously on the arcade.

Do you have any additional details on the North Arcade?

And what that system will look like. And then the other question I would have is consistency along the facade.

Both the North and the South. Is this something that you’re envisioning across the entirety of the ferry building?

And then a little bit more detail on that pieces. Great question!

Thank you for that. So we are envisioning, and we’re very much in the early developments of the data.

But we’re envisioning this to be a lightweight metal tube system.

The size that we’re in. We’re actively working the structure with self.

I would the, as I said. You know, toll structures.

The band. If you see their 2 structural members, horizontal ones that are opportunities.

In the future.

Shading devices at the group level of that to provide for.

In the comfort control of the heaters for the rainy or not any cold days in San Francisco.

That’s about as far as we are the designs.

In terms of the North and South. I’m gonna move.

Here that we are not intending to build out the South.

But.

Can help me answer the question. Understand that the build?

What matter? Yes, that’s right. That’s under a current lease.

And so with our partner. Food wise, and that has some change on it.

But we’re already talking, and they’re good tonight.

We’ll move on to Catherine. Catherine.

Any clarifying questions. Yes, I would like to pick up on the comment or the question asked by Tom Leader regarding the potential future.

Relationship between one ferry plaza and Third Plaza, east.

At this moment it looks as if beyond drawing there is No Man’s land and since this will be an act of tenant, it would be nice, since you are doing the majority of the work, there will be some desire lines, some ideas connect the front to the where the hard part, this is not as much a question as

an observational lecture chair share. The building is totally dated.

It’s looks like an obstruction at the end, and we have all struggled with this for many, many years, asking the same questions and different contexts when we are dealing with the waterfront.

There is a technical component which I think is inspired by somewhere underneath that, and to understand that together with desire lines which come from your project would be, I think, conceptually helpful.

Oh, for the public, including ourselves, to understand the overall and overall intensive transformation!

Ultimately you have to vote somebody in to agree with you, because these people will have realistic expectations.

How, since a restaurant of this size will have to function in an already vari precarious position, so I would personally like to ask or see conceptual sketches which raise the question that doesn’t mean that you are designing it.

But you are to ask questions to them as they are able to ask questions for you, and sharing them from the get go, would be very helpful.

I’d like to leave it with that. That is one demising line I am.

I would like to see some more ideas. The second question is, I personally have spent a lot of time.

Dealing with the transcriptation transformation of the waterfront moving in southern direction, particularly the design of the Vieta Plaza.

That took a long, long time, and I do personally not see any.

We’ll mention in your discussion or in your drawings, and I’m sure you’ve thought about it.

I’m not implying that you didn’t how do you deal with that transition?

That transition was designed with a lot of intention, of a smooth flow from the existing building, and to functions on the east as well as on the west side.

Into this incredibly important plaza and transportation connections.

Could you address that, or have any additional other drawings?

Of how you thought about it. You’re creating a very, very highly detailed, highly refined design approach.

But that is a demarcation line, and together with the fire department, you have another demarcation line.

One has to be there’s the other. One is intentional, and you choose it.

Could you please quickly speak to that? Sure we have, of course, thought a lot about Wida Plaza and about it.

Elevation, and also about the microclimate on this side of the building which the sen exposure and felt like the addition of an element that took you from the embarcadero.

And it’s sort of happening with Plaza, but could be. And you all the way to very Plausa was adding to what was already happening there and building a.

That we already see happening now, but takes a question one step further.

What are your thoughts? I see a very rich material, palette, and a very large discussion on the South Promenade, and the material summary over the years.

Having participated in a number of projects in the past.

I’m not trying to date myself here from Jefferson Street all the way down to the ferry to the cruise terminal, to the Exploratorium, and on and on, also going south.

So discussion was almost always stay simple, hold back, understate, but emphasize the connecting character of maritime architecture, maritime detailing.

Etc., etc. I see a very rich, very exciting kind of textured suggestion here.

How does that reflect on those previous mandates? I think we’re trying to be connecting between things.

So we have Wida Plaza, which is a very, very luscious palette of granite.

We have the existing concrete pavement at the front, along the embarkidero, and the ferry plaza, which is a heavily use space and actually it’s kind of wonderfully, heavily and you can spill things on it.

And that’s okay. Okay. And we wanted to have a palette that was about texture rather than elevating material.

In order to allow that messy life to continue to happen, I would say, the pilot that we are proposing is about using using texture rather than using other things way to kind of.

Number of things. Mostly our palette is about working in small ways around the edge rather than making big news.

Can I ask one comment? Are you sure sure that you’re not competing it on a small drawing?

One can do very little justice to what is really to be perceived at a significant larger scale.

In the drawing. It looks as have you thought about competition?

I think there is a question about the Graphic, particularly the wavy, graphic.

That’s sort of representing an artist. Graphic has some question of merit around.

How showy should that be the other elements? I feel really confident, are not competing.

We’re building on the existing grid that’s in the ferry plaza.

We’re grinding. We’re setting the palette mostly the materials that are already out there.

It’s the pavement graphic. That is the kind of unexpected element, I would say.

And there’s been a lot of talk about it. Should it have color, should not have color? What should?

Right now, it’s really just to make it clear that what happened with pain and there’s play a lot more discussion about it.

And then in terms of the palette for vertical materials, there’s also been a lot of discussion about how does complement and match that’s already there.

But what’s interesting is the palette between things of match. What?

And so been trying to find our own language, some liberty that our line of late posts, banners stand out against the yeah.

Just thought on that side of a way. It is a conversation that.

Color and material going, and honestly from at all decided onsite with real materials and a lot of people standing around actually looking at things look different outside and that’s what we hope.

I appreciate that answer because I do believe it can evolve over time together.

When you find that balance with the existing family of materials and strengths of expression, I have one comment, if I may, Katherine, just to jump in, we have a next segment where we are okay, thank you.

I will reserve that comfortable, so we can move on to Laura.

Alright Laura Kristimano. Thank you for the presentation.

A couple specific questions. I guess maybe building on the conversation about the light post, and I appreciate this dance between how much we accept what we see in a rendering and versus what it may be evolving to be.

I know, especially in very posa, quite a few what will look like.

Actually the flash. Can you say, maybe say anything about how the frequency or the plan for the intent around the number of them?

Yeah, we’re working our back glass, though, and we’re trying to assess, establishished pathways of light particularly at the edges that are feel comfortable, particularly if sort of desk hours.

And so there’s a height sort of maximum height that we was comfortable with the bridge.

That also worked.

Around, 24 feet on.

And then I noticed in the drawings, but I don’t think it was meant.

The loading, the 9 loading spaces. Can you see to that?

There are so many things as you saw in the early permits, and that happened on this plaza, and there’s a lot of loading and things that occur today.

And so there are 9 spaces and barriers that occur, kind of at the edge of the fire lane.

That would be preserved in the final. These are existing.

And do you have any images? This might be for a lot of any images when those so our friends are in close.

Do you have any images? All the images show them open. Do you have any images?

Of them. Okay.

Thank you. In that particular presentation.

I’m not sure that they would render in this image much differently.

If that makes sense with this level of that, one may be correct in this one. I think.

Thanks, Laura. One more question.

This may be a question for you, Dan. Do you know the level of expected traffic for the future potential tech out at the east end of the plaza?

Is it sort of going to be would it be like vehicle drop off for people coming to and from a restaurant on a regular basis?

Or is it just more kind of Eva access?

Download app with support. The how the restaurant at the east end of Ferry Pier would operate is not yet determined in the past.

Of course it’s had vehicle access and it may very well happen without vehicle accessing.

That’s future, but it’s not. It’s not set or final.

So is the idea around the kind of circulation dedication to enable, like how much vehicle traffic is sort of being planned for that.

Yeah, I’m an expert on the deliveries on the back plaza.

Yeah. So the 9 spaces on the back plaza.

We worked very closely with the Bcdc. In 2013 to establish the needs not just of the ferry building, but of very plaza.

East Golden Gate very, and Bart, as well, and all of those existing permits with the Bcdc.

And leases with the port do mention particular needs, you know, drop offs and delivery.

So the compromise was to provide these 9 spaces that not only our tenants and merchants, but also that the very plaza East Bart, and Golden Gate very needed.

And I’m actually, you know, I’ve been out there a number of times when a car is trying to go down the you know they’re trying to drop off, and all the pedestrians think it’s a plaza and they’re like, why, and so it’s really difficult for

cars to get through there. So I’m sort of wondering in terms of like how you know how much does that need to look like a driveway?

So that people know that it’s okay. If a car drives there versus if it should kind of be more plaza like, and it doesn’t really need to look like a driveway, and it can kind of mostly be inhabited by people.

Well, it’s definitely required for all of those buildings, particularly the Bart structure, and that was something that will, I think, always need to be made.

We actually probably in the last 6 months, actually have posted our security at the towards the middle of the driveway, in order to check people in to make sure they’re supposed to be there, and they haven’t mistaken it, you know, for you know, place to Park, or drop off.

If they’re not doing something, you know, business like at the building.

So, but I do think you know Sarah’s. You know ideas of that.

You know the signage and the planters in front with signage that say, ferry plaza.

I think it’s very much is messaging.

This is not a play, and this is not a driveway.

This is a place.

Okay. And I just wanna wrap up with a couple of questions.

Colin Jane. I just want to make sure that we have this completely clarified.

So that the board discussion stays on track, but on the Northern colonnades I think I heard you say that the space under the colonnade is not.

It’s in your lease, and it’s not included in the account for public.

Is that correct?

Yes. Okay. So, so I just wanna make sure a roll on the same page for that.

And then the second question, you know, when you walk along the east.

Well, really, all sides of the you see, I see quite a variety in the way.

The seating and the security tape around the seats to people from wandering through the apple, seating it.

There’s a lot of different approaches at present. Do you have standards, or a sort of a basic approach that you’re taking, or would like to take cause.

I actually think some really don’t look for good, and others will.

Quite good. So how are you addressing that? There is standards to being 12 feet from the brick phase?

You know there’s standards that we give the tenants, and one of the beauties of working with all these food artisans is their interpretation of those standards, and you know, and sometimes they hit it out of the ballpark. And other times.

It’s out of their lease line, you know. You have to.

I think, one of my daily things is going around and putting things in place, but I think you know, that is, you know, just being more as design concepts progress as people improve their spaces like Hog Island did a big renovation.

2013, and they were at we were able to add a more formal barrier around their cafe zone that really enhanced their that experience, and Glenador 2 has the great, you know, windscreen and the built in benches.

So you know, as you know. You see things in renderings and in drawing plans.

You hope they come out as as nicely as they hope them to be.

But yeah, I think the idea is to you know, we work with our tenants very closely to make things better if they don’t come out as we planned, and I would just add, as James Co-pilot, who’s done more tours of this building lately with alongside

Jane, and sees how often she’s pushing back into their correct location.

I think you mean having more of the permanent rescue.

Permanent, fixed.

Good. Thing is, it’s gonna give you a bunch of your week back to not have to tell.

The issue is where they have the movable Stan right?

And then it kind of creased, and sometimes it’s not even the rest of like a somebody’s got.

Oh, I don’t! I can have more children here.

I think our long term tenants have figured it out.

So there are standards, but State get interpreted and look just a final question.

I heard mention from both the designers about light touch to clarify.

That is that because of the civic importance of the building, and we’ve already heard people reference it, and.

The critical.

We heard a lot of.

But why are you making that like touch? Reference?

Great question for that, I think, on the we all recognize how important that will landmark.

I refer to them as White Touch.

Impact the building.

Take away from the build.

Independent in clearly off today, contemporary enough to.

To not interfere with the.

Staying away from.

Making, whether it’s the enclosure behind our.

Insert within the arch, or use. Stay away from the fabric.

Structures.

Layering new, and that are of their own, that.

An enhancement.

Maybe I could just landscape architect. Okay, excellent.

I think the architecture is more obvious. I think I mean using it in 2.

One way is a light touch, because, as we’ve heard, there’s a lot of program that already happened with the farmers market with vehicles.

Lot of people coming and going. And so we need really flexible, empty space.

So we’re not trying to fill. And we’re not trying to reach so I think that’s one, the meeting, the other meaning, I think, is directly in relation to having read a lot of work about sea level rise.

And things that are likely to happen here, that there’s a bigger touch coming some infrastructure scale and wanting to kind of right size.

What we’re doing as a way to test circulation.

Really really usable sort of the near term of sea level rise, but knowing that there will be.

So those are the 2 ways that I’ve been thinking.

Clarification. Okay, that concludes the questions to clarify the presentation from the Drb. And the Wdac.

We’ll move now to public comment. And so we’ll open the meeting to public comment.

Are there any members of the public attending the meeting in person?

Who would like to speak, and you need to notify the board.

And we’ll move to the online.

Before we get to the in person comments. I did also wanna say, Pcdc staff did receive 2 public comment letters that have been forwarded to the board and will be included in the minutes for the meeting.

The public comments was submitted from representatives of the Telegraph Hill dwellers and food wise, the manager of the firm.

Yes, so that’s very important to recognize both of those we appreciate, those that quite detailed and.

Thank you so much.

Okay, we’ll move to public call.

Good Evening Commissioners. Port staff project Sponsors.

My name is Katherine Patron. I’m here tonight representing San Francisco Architectural heritage. Thank you.

So much for the opportunity to comment on this project. I just wanted to give a little clearification about the heritage involvement.

So, couple of weeks ago we had a presentation from the project.

Sponsor we followed up with a letter of our position and a couple of people in the room, port, staff and project side have interpreted as a letter of support.

We aren’t there yet, really what it was we issued the letter asking for more clarification on a number of topics that have been discussed in a very interesting and full way.

This evening we appreciate that a lot. So it’s not yet a letter of support.

We very much look forward to the next conversations and meetings, and the topics that are of highest priority to San Francisco heritage have to do with public access and public circulation, and some of the things that we heard about up privateization of might not be the right word

but limitation of public space for space, for people who are also, we’re really concerned about the balance of uses, the market hall, purveyor aspect versus maybe an over abundance of restaurants.

And obviously as a citywide organization, that really advocates for our city’s historic resources.

We’re thinking a lot about the historic value of the ferry building as a historic building.

And really of this special and unique quality that were introduced to reintroduce to the building in 2,003, when it became a market hall.

And so we are, you know, would like to see that preservation of those characters.

Thank you very much. Thank you.

Good evening. My name’s Christine Fahren. I’m the executive director for food.

Wise, well, formerly, Quasa, we’re best known for running the Ferry Plaza farmers, market.

We also run the mission community market and a lot of youth education programs for Sfoc students, primarily at the ferry building this summer. We’re celebrating our thirtieth year, and I’ve had the pleasure of working with Jane for food wise for the last 20 years so I have physically

been at the building for 20 years, and have seen so many changes in those 2 decades of bringing food, education, and community and farmers, markets.

You. I’m gonna share something that’s never really not new for any of you.

Which is that the market is really this dynamic assemblage of farmers, food crafters, chefs, residents, and we all come together 3 times a week to really transform this space and turn it into an economic engine community connections.

It’s really where the urban and the rule connect and where a lot of climate change solutions take place, especially in agriculture.

And we consider our job in running the farmers market to be about promoting those changes.

And it’s a huge public community, and I love seeing at the very building it’s such a gift to work there every day.

So I wanna show that we’re largely in support of the concepts.

Behind the project with our landlord, Tatson, and we’ve been in lots and lots of conversations.

I feel like I’m on a first name with everybody over here at this point.

We understand. They want to bring the vitality that we bring 3 days a week already to the ferry building, and we appreciate that they want to do that.

And I really want this body to carefully consider some of the elements of the projects that are being put forth, and asked specifically for some more time.

We don’t feel that we have enough information to understand the impacts to our market operating.

I shared it in my written comments. It’s clear that there’s going to be a lot of temporary, significant, but temporary changes, and the impacts relocating sellers.

They’ll have to come back once that front North canopy is erected.

But we don’t actually know how well the structures going to work for us in the long term we have real needs to understand what the roofing structure, the ventilation flag, what the polls, where they’re going to be placed, one of the things about farmers marketing everyone thinks they’re

infinitely flexible, but the more fixed structures you have in an element harder it is for us to operate.

Okay. Thanks. The permanent retail kiosk in the back is our greatest concern, because the size and the scope and the placement of that is going to significantly.

Our ability to have a cohesive farmers market with them, to find more ideal placement. And we also have concerns about the desired proposal for the and when we’re operating it.

So there’s a lot of changes, and that we’re concerned about.

And we just wanted to say that like to have more information, so that we can assess the permanent.

With all of those. If you look at them, singularly, we’re totally adaptable.

When you look at them all together and stacks, it’s not possible for us to have the same number of vendors, the same robust farmers market that.

Well, thank you very much, and I just want to commend you for your good work.

There are many years, I mean, what’s your honor? What you?

Yeah, what you’re in charge of. There is a big distance.

We’ll move to online comment. Now, if you’re attending online and would like to make a public comment, please raise your virtual hand to speak.

Remember, if you are joining our meeting with your phone, you must use Star 9 on your keypad to raise your hand to make a comment, to unmute or mute press star 6.

You will be called in the order. Your hand was raised, and you will have 3 min to speak.

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Ashley do? Oh, sorry! Here we go!

We have 2 hands raised. The first person I have is Alex Bash.

I like. I’m gonna unmute you, and you will have 3 min.

Oh, please state your affiliation, and you’ll have to.

Alex, are you there?

Yes, I’m here. I have. Unmuted myself, Alec Bash, and I’m speaking on behalf of the Gateway Tenants Association.

We used to be known as the Golden Gateway, and are part of the for a redevelopment area log embargo, golden Gateway redevelopment area right across from the ferry building, and pier one where the port’s offices are 25 years ago I had

the honor of working at the port, and, in fact, one of my projects here was the Rq.

For the ferry building, and I have followed it ever since.

I continued to participate on the part of the waterfront, to design advice, fee.

The meeting now known as The.

Mary, and at the gateway where I now live. We have been very, very pleased with.

The work done under Jane Connors and the owners.

Of the Sherry building actions before very important to us to see how the very building has cope with all of the difficulties caused by Covid over the past 3 years, and how will they work to keep tenants there?

And the continued effort to revitalize the ferry building in ways that will keep up with what the demands that are are being placed on it.

As the economy of the city have shifted in these past.

Very strange and tumultuous years, so well, we aren’t really prepared to speak to some of the historical qualities that have been talked about here.

We do appreciate. I appreciate the concept of having a light touch and understand the importance of it.

I think that the more openness that is possible within the more public areas of the trade building, not public access, but the more public areas, the more openness that can be continued.

Just letting you know you have one more minute left.

Thank you very much, Steve, more openly. That will be continued, is very important.

At the same time, it’s important for these patients. So we use under various conditions, including increment weather.

And I’m sure that the Port and Bcdc.

Staff are looking at all of those aspects overall, though I just want to say that those of us living in the area at the gateway apartments we have 1,254 apartments and town homes.

There are very supportive of what has happened here, and and appreciate the efforts that you, as designers, are putting in.

To be sure that this is as good of a revitalization as possible, that.

Thank you.

The next speaker is Robert Howard. Robert, your audio is unmuted, and please state your affiliation, and you have 3 min to speak.

Okay. Can you hear me now?

Can you hear me?

Okay. My name is Bob Harr, and I’m a member of the Board of the Barbara Coast neighborhood is, and I’ve visited the ferry building many times over the years, and I’ve always enjoyed my experience.

I think it’s a real asset to to the city, and I’m familiar with the the improvements here that the that Hudson is proposing, and I think that the the improvements do offer the opportunity to expand the Usable space and give you know more

comfort to our customers, to their customers. That would potentially expand the appeal.

I’m not an architect, so I’m not that converient in the the historically significant structures and and everything that is associated with the history of this fine building.

But I do believe that the the what the proposal has done has been been a light touch, and I think it’s been very targeted in what they’re trying to to accomplish, I think it’s appropriate that the large signage at the South end has been recessed appropriately

so it doesn’t attract from from the appearance right at the at the front of the building, a bordering on the embarcadero.

So in summary. I believe that this project concept does have merit, and deserves to be moved along, you know, with, obviously, there’s gonna be some more discussions about details and architectural issues that I’m not conversing in.

But again I do believe that this project should hopefully be able to move forward.

I also think it’s important to note that the city is facing many changes right now with the from the pandemic and all the adjustments that have been occurring since then.

Ana, and I note that there are 2 other waterfront attractions that are in the that have been proposed for Pierce 30, 32, and piers 38, and 4, and so I do support from the standpoint of fairness that the ferry building should be able to improve upon its site so

Yeah. One more minute.

it can broaden its appeal so that they can broaden, it can broaden its appeal to the wide range of potential customers that they deal with, and can better compete with other waterfront activities in the future.

Thank you.

Chair. We have no more hands. Okay, thanks, very much.

Appreciate everyone’s public comment before we move to the board.

Discussion and advice. I’d like to proposed a 7 min break.

This is a very precisely timed break that everyone needs to reserve my watch of my clock iphone for 17.

It’s 7, 17. We will restart because we have lots of people online as well.

Just to give time for people to run to the bathroom or pick up something and come back, and then we will start the board discussion.

Okay. Thank you.

Okay. We’ll reconvene now, and I appreciate everyone being very prompt about getting back and thank you for your patience.

Everyone who’s online. So we’ll reconvene now with our next item item on the agenda is the board discussion and advice. Part of the meeting.

And I just want to remind everyone who is here. This is the point in the meeting where the committee and the Drb.

Have an opportunity to discuss between us what we think. So the committee and the Board do not ask questions to the proponents.

We have had plenty of time to ask clarifying questions.

It’s really a time for us to reflect and and ribal out votes and reactions to the presentation.

A public comment. But we.

So I just wanna run through before we start a reminder on the questions that the Drb.

Asked, and also the questions that the port has asked us to consider I’m not gonna read them verbatim, but just a reminder.

Staff at the at the Bcdc. Have asked us to consider how public the spaces feel, and that’s a somewhat subjective question.

But that’s really fundamental to our role. To make sure that the short.

Number of people to also think about connectivity. Are we enhancing sufficient?

Enhancing connectivity along the shoreline question about the enclosure of the private dining areas on the promenade and the kitchens.

Hey? Prank kitchens is that activating?

And any thoughts on, whether, in closing it, it makes, and then alterations to the fairy plaza.

Can we get varied programming there? Thoughts on improvements proposed for the Fairy Plaza?

Are they going to attract?

Like a days, other thoughts on that as well would be welcome.

The question. 6. Address. Details about the programming of the perimeter easement.

Activation zone in the South Promenade. Any conflicts or other thoughts on that.

And any other general additional good enhance public account. Again, coming to the core of what’s.

From the port also asked the committee.

So the following, the collection of improvements, they’re aggregated together.

Just how does that total picture really?

Cultural and the building. Dan also asked the committee to think about access.

Of access. The proposals, and then again, just a specific questioning, you know what the committee’s view is.

The improvements and.

So we have lots of questions that have been posed by the staff at both the port and the and the Bcdc.

So we should take that as we have our discussion but we’re not going to go through question by question laborious ly, because we have a lot of people here who need to comment.

But what we will do what I would like to ask each member member of the committee member of the Board to do is to speak to the particular aspects of any of these questions that really resonate with them.

And would, you know, make them want to talk about that? Are of highest concern to them?

We have a lot of experts on the panel and online.

And so I’m sure there will be a number of issues.

That are covered by one person. We don’t need to reiterate them and talk about them again and again and again.

Let’s make sure that we get the maximum value at.

Staff, and for the so I’m going to do this in reverse order, and we’re going to start with the Wdac.

And we’ll start with Laura, who’s at the far end of the table.

So Laura fortunately gets to lead off. Over to you, Laura.

Thank you. Okay. So though it as part I will just I mean I think I’ll touch on a couple of things broadly and in weighing this one, as it’s been noted right, this is very important building and site and experience of San Francisco.

And I think what we’re looking at is the experience of the public and the experience of history.

Here, and the waterfront at this site. And so you heard a lot of questions to that end.

I would say that I have questions about the new enclosures.

I recognize that there are, you know, I think there are boundaries of the least control, and that you know, that would have been helpful to have a little bit more clarity.

I think diagrammatically for, but I also see that there are some that are going into.

Let’s see the yeah into the promenade near the ferry plaza.

And so just quiteing really what those trails are that we’re making and what that experience.

Not just. It’s both of the building where we’re adding these new skin elements and experience of the continuity of the public realm.

And the gesture towards not the non dedicated public space.

So I would just kind of flag that as one a big one that I think we are all kind of asking questions around, and then the other, I would say, for for the public space improvements.

It does. I understand that this is a kind of strategic, tactical.

Project. I do have questions about what ties it together, and I appreciate the desire to kind of make a bolder move in that pathway, and I think you already had said this, Sarah, but I’m like the drawing don’t get me there yet.

I doesn’t mean it can’t work, but I do think I would wanna see on a lot of this I would say I would wanna see the it get to a level of refinement to be able to assess how to Catherine’s point that’s not competing or feeling out of place

in this context and working together with the other elements. Maybe I’ll start off with those 2 comments and let us keep moving through the conversation.

Laura. That’s a really good approach, and we can. We are into dialogue.

Make their initial. Let’s go to Katherine.

I don’t know any more where the division between question or observation is.

So I’m gonna be asking hypothetical question.

One, and comments. I think the issue of continuity, transition, and connectivity extremely important in all aspects of the building.

The Ambuladoro side, north, south, as well as east side.

That wes the question of equity, of reassignning, or we are using space for the different users from farmers, markets to the public.

The reduction in public space per se is of concern, and requires a single met in order to really create a balance of give and take that at this moment it’s not clear.

We? I asked questions about the materiality and details.

We, I think, got a satisfactory answer. That that would be discussed as we move on.

So I’m comfortable with that. There are many good moves.

Ultimately there is so much to think about that I believe we just need to cook together, spend more time.

We’re jumping into this discussion after 3 years of no confusion.

Whatsoever. And I think we just all have to get used again to rolling up our sleeves and respectfully asking you to other questions and supporting each other in a common goal.

Let’s go through my comments. Thank you, Katherine.

That’s extremely hard.

The.

So I’ll hit on kind of 2 points from my and both as kind of user, I commute using the ferry every day really resonate with a lot of what Carl has to say about getting more activation with the ferry building and with the plaza and with you know, basically.

the kind of post Covid recovery, and how you basically bring the ferry building.

Or how do you bring the ferry building back into 2023?

Realistically right, like the last intervention that basically turned it into the Festival Market Hall.

It’s basically you’re trying to basically evolve.

You know the market hall into what? What it needs to be.

So I actually really do appreciate a lot of the moves that you’re making.

I will be very overt and direct, and say the bold color choices, which are very helpful for a graphic on the presentation most definitely need to be studied.

Further in general, I will say with our historic landmarks in particular, with things like signage, and it should be the building itself.

That is the highlight, not the signage. I know, which is kind of inverse to what most users want but when you’re dealing with kind of our, you know, utmost landmark in the city you know the kind of pinnacle of what is San Francisco you don’t want things

that distract from it and so there’s always a balance that I think gets struck between that and that way.

We are, we are able to deal with that kind of component.

But I do think realistically think the moves are moving in the right direction.

I think it’s in the details, really, where we will need to.

Kind of, you know, move in to see how, for example, some of the glazing systems work with the arcades.

You know how some of the way finding and signage work with the larger building and so it’s kind of like hitting upon a little bit of what you know, my colleagues have kind of already stated.

I think it’s actually going where it needs to go to kind of continue evolving and continue adjusting to quite frankly what is retail today.

Right? What new retail needs to be you know. And these are a lot of questions that I’ll say that we’re tackling throughout the city period.

So it is one of these things that’s nice to.

A set of evolution.

Okay. I think we’ll go to our 2 online members.

Diabi, next Stefan. I’m going to go to you next.

If you’re ready to comment from a discussion standpoint.

Yeah, no, thank you. And I’m gonna try to sort of build on sort of what others have said.

I think one of the things that I’m struggling with is that the the building?

Itself is just very public, even though the delineation of where the public access is is clear, and there are sort of a lot of spaces inside the building that are, I would say, not 100% public nor 100% private.

There’s sort of a liminal space, and many parts of the building that actually in my mind relate to how people are actually intended to move through the building and the permeability that you have in that the spaces that receive people are bigger at the edges and they sort of channel people into a

narrower passages that did kid get bigger, as you sort of connect back out to the street.

And I think one of the key things to note here which I think is a concern for me.

Is that the portico is on the front of the building.

Actually, right now, allow. The pedestrian to pass through the building, and then pass through the portico’s before they go back to into the city, or vice versa, that you can filter through the portico’s and then go into find your way into the center core of the space and make your way through

the building, and that filtering in this proposal would be lost.

So that everybody would channel through the middle entrance, and that entrance would be right in that the leftover space, or sort of the space that’s not 100% public work 100% private today it sort of gets transformed into more of a retail oriented corridor and

so if we sort of took the public space access to this, where we say, Hey, this building has been basically placed inside the shorter line behind, where you know it.

It was placed in the shoreline band before there was a shoreline band.

I think that we need to sort of think really carefully about how we think about public access through the ground plane of the building.

In this location, and I’m concerned about sort of that.

There’s a like a channeling that’s occurring where the access through the building.

Sure, it gets us to the very building but it’s sole purpose is actually for us to actually pass through retail spaces, and that is something I think I’m struggling with, cause.

The civic nature of building. I think it actually would be significantly altered by this proposal, and I can’t speak on the intention of why this building was designed in the way it was, but I see it a change in the part that I think is it’s it’s concerning from the lens

of public access, that I think we should be.

We we should alert. We’d be alerted to that.

And then I think just in that theme it was really helpful to hear food wise, because I think that the farmers market is really is a lens through which the public, the greater public, can access continue to access.

This site in a way that they’ve managed to not be priced out of the process of this sort of revitalization of this building.

And so I would say that the issues that have that the farmers market has raised about the design changes, challenging the flexibility or potential function of the farmer’s market, either in particular locations or across the site in total I think in my mind that raises an issue for us for

me because the preservation of this space, as they a space that is really maximum accessible to the public, I see that, linked with the farmers market use in some ways.

And so that’s sort of a concern to me.

The last thing I sort of want to raise, which I think is sort of just an issue and sort of an interesting thing is that you know the hard, scaped presence of the plaza today, I’m curious.

If we should actually question any of that like, if there’s sort of a layer of greening that could occur through public space and improvements, that or that we should at least sort of be asking ourselves about Hi, I did this nature sort of remaining understated being in

deference to the building, I think is is really is really useful, but that I’m just wondering if there isn’t more space for greening in this environment as a way to make this space actually more livable and hospitable for people to linger in times when there isn’t

an active programmed use in the space. So that’s I’m gonna end with that sort of question.

To my add to my phone on board members.

Sit Stefan. Thank you. That’s very helpful, and I just want to quickly clarify something on the second point you made about the farmers market.

Can you just let’s say again, are you concerned that the farmers market privatizes the space?

I might have missed her.

No. Yeah. I think that the farmers market is a lens through which we can maximize public access to the site.

If that’s clear in a way that the way that the businesses function inside the farmer’s market is not is not so opening and welcoming to the public.

That the farmers market, I think, is from the standpoint of equity.

In the same point of that everybody is allowed to go regardless of whether you can afford to buy something, and that the space is actually sort of presented in that way.

I think it’s something very valuable. I don’t.

It’s having this barber’s market anymore.

But I go to the Civic Center Farmers market, and I think that’s you can see that in play that the sort of maximum use of the public space and the farmers market, those 2 things are intertwined in my mind because it is sort of an equitable opportunity for everybody to

participate. And so I would say that it’s important for us to try to make sure that we’re not potentially making changes to the space that would hinder the operation of the successful farmers market in this location.

Yeah, okay, that’s good. Thanks for clarifying that. Hey?

Jacinda. Can I ask a question? Or, okay? So I think the to me, I think the big thing.

I think we are missing as I shall say in the presentation, is a little bit of cognition on what the existing space is right like, particularly as we’re looking at the portico’s and looking at the activity of it, like you know, that’s the frame of reference that I’m kind of

missing in. Okay, how does the farmer’s market layouts today?

How does farmers market layout in the future? And that way?

So that way you can kind of give the board a point of comparison between the 2. You know.

How does the portico function? Like? As I understand, it’s a lot of service spaces so it doesn’t actually have a ton of activation within it, because there’s nothing in there to engage the public within it.

You know? What is it that you want to move forward for the future?

And then that might give a better frame of reference. As we’re kind of exploring a lot of the other comments regarding this, because, like, I’ll say this, I go to the site every day and night.

Red Bay is on my jam to go and grab my coffee, and it’s it’s wonderful, but you get a sense of this of like, what’s the site like at 8 am.

What’s the site like? At 5 Pm. What’s the site like?

At noon, and you know, and that way then you can see what transformation is with regard to the project that you have.

That’s very helpful. Look. We’ll keep moving, Tom, over to you, please.

So your thoughts for the.

Thanks, 3 areas of of thoughts. The first one goes back to my previous question.

I, honestly, I really think it’s incumbent on the port not to let 2 different unrelated projects occur on this peninsula.

I think that there’s gotta be strategies contained within this project that can served to organize the rest of the Peninsula in some way, and it’s not like it’s gotta be every single thing.

It’s like one giant. But the guy beside the links, something that makes them feel like one place, one public place publicly linked.

Second, I think I feel like on the building that there are to be ground rules and to me one of those is that you can’t.

I don’t think you can glass it or cades.

I think those are are intended, and function as an area which is between outside and inside, and strategies.

There should have to do with the modifying the climate to make usable and friendly, and and I definitely loved all the cleaning out of the carbuncles that have been proposed.

But I don’t agree with making it and close so that it wouldn’t feel really like a I worry about the privatization sense of that, and there’s no nothing to kind of receives.

You part with the building the way it is now and then.

The third thing is, I was struck by the diagram that was presented that showed the current access axis of the building with the lining up on the, you know, from the Market street all the way into the entry to the bill, and then another access which is being developed now which runs along the side

and leads people back to the very plus. I think it’s important thing to to acknowledge and to accept that.

That’s important. And in accepting that, I think that there’s got to be some strength to it, and so that leads me to have a few questions about the light touch.

And I understand why the light touch is the is the idea, because nothing wants to compete necessarily with the building itself.

But I think if you support, if you kind of accept the this second access there may be, ought to be a little bit more substance to what structures that access that that means of moving from front to back, and I think the very components that we’re proposed are all good now I think that the

cornersstone piece, the sign at the back, the promenade, the Graphic promenade, and then the treatment of of the plus self.

Or all the right things to be looking at, but I would differ a little bit on some of the expression of them.

The cornerstone. I wish, was not planters. I wish it was something more substantial.

Maybe you should. Maybe the course don’t should be made of stone, or else not be there.

But I think if it’s gonna be a kind of a entry point, then it should have the substance that isn’t in keeping with the mass and subance of of the.

Building itself, then also what leads from front to back, I think there’s too much reliance on the graphic pattern on the ground, and I think the patterns I mean, I understand it’s just a surfing suggestion right now.

But it’s too elaborate. It feels unrelated to to the context, and I think that the pattern could be simplified.

But I would like to see something done almost vertically.

Maybe a series of landscapes with more substance than the yellow polls without banners, something that kind of engages civic sense of architecture, that leads along this new access from the front to the back.

Maybe that’s on the Plaza side. Maybe it’s getting too close to third.

Maybe it oughta be on on the south side and replace or inter interspersed with some of those existing flights.

Something that is got a that kind of a more substantial kind of lantern, and if it was in this self position he could also run all the way the length of the pince all the way to the east Ferry Plaza insert to unite the whole project and then the last thing is

just on that paving treatments. I think that, like I was saying, I feel like the elaborate, elaborate nature of the promenade is too much.

And then the on the very pause itself is not quite enough.

I think the very plaza needs a little denser field, you know, looking in the rendering, I I don’t see that it’s going to read enough as a as a clear sort of a field.

I wish it had more frequency, more density to the field.

Using this idea of just grinding, existing, concrete.

If that’s what it needs to be. Stain could also be subtly introduced to, whether it’s color or without color to help Chief semis, graphic character and something similar.

Maybe a more intense version of that along the promenade uses grinding and stain would be more permanent.

I worry about the paint on concrete that you know.

After a couple of years it’ll be ground down a lot to be, you know.

Redone, so often. That’d be kind of falls away.

But I do support all the basic planning and strategy that was put forward on the landscape design approach.

Thanks.

Yeah. Thank you, Tom. Lot of good things to speak up on that.

Gary, let’s go to you.

Thanks, so many great things here that folks are talking about.

I wanna make sure I don’t repeat anything. Well, first of all, I mean the ferry building, you know, holds such a special place in all of our hearts, and I appreciate the stewardship that you’re bringing to it.

And clearly, it’s very important to all of you that this maintains a an important civic asset.

And I actually went there after I got engaged to celebrate.

I was just there for day lunch, whatever, right before this.

So it’s, you know. It’s it’s it’s a favorite place for most people in San Francisco, and visitors.

I just wanted to say that I think we it seems like the purpose of these changes is to make it more feasible to continue these retail operations, and it seems like there’s a kind of intentional shift from a market hall idea towards a kind of a more restaurant idea.

And I think if that would work better if you’re seeing that the market Hall idea isn’t working, and that the restaurant idea would work better from kind of a tenant perspective, I think that’s important for us to know.

But I also think that it’s not really functioning.

Very well as a market hall right now. I mean, there’s a lot of there’s some booths, you know.

There’s some kind of there’s a lot of individual vendors, but there’s not a lot of public seating, and most market halls are around the world are kind of a lot of booths around a whole bunch of public seating.

And so it’s difficult right now, when you go there to buy something, eat, to actually find a place, to sit down to eat it.

And so what, I wonder, is, there could be a little bit more in the in the kind of the way you present these ideas to us.

Some more clarity around the kind of the public and the private seating areas and I’m wondering if things like on the West Side, you know, there’s right now there’s these kind of gardens that spell out of Gods.

And I guess, what is it? Wine merchant? Now?

And those are clearly private, because they have the kind of rails around them.

And I wonder if there’s, you know, a chance for this seating that you’re showing in that kind of nook there to be public seating instead of privatized seating.

And there’s also a sort of an aesthetic quality.

There’s a sort of what is the aesthetic of a civic building, or this kind of cultural building.

And I think what we love about the ferry building is this kind of gravitas of the arches and the stone, and and there’s also sort of a fun thing about the ferry building, which is that there is this kind of like you know the each individual vendor has their own

expression they have their own chairs, they get to kind of brand their own experience within the framework of these stone arches, right?

That there’s there’s a sort of a playfulness to that, and maybe there needs to be a little bit more clarity around.

What are the public and permanent elements that have a little bit more restraint?

Gravitas scale, and then the kind of private elements that can be kind of lighter weight and more kind of fun and colorful.

So, for example, you think of like the Tuary’s garden right in Paris.

You know that those chairs are public chairs because they’re all the same.

They’re real heavy, you know. They are always there, and they’re branded, you know.

They have a little thing on them to say they’re from the garden, and I’m wondering if there could be more clarity around this kind of public seating, and to that to that same point, you know, the lighting these poles, these yellow poles and the kind of graphic on the ground I think you’re hearing a

lot of kind of, you know, response to that. And I think for me, it’s about a civic, ness civic architecture, civic landscape design that has a little bit more gravitas and restraint, and the playfulness gets to be kind of the realm of the inserted

temporary things, but the permanent things have this regime, and then just one more thing on the Eva access, or the driveway, or whatever it is, I think you know, it would be really helpful to understand how much that needs to function as a driveway because driveways, you know exist we need to be

able to get cars into places sometimes, and they should be able to get in there when they need to.

And if we can, I know there’s like, you know, 20 foot.

Whatever you have to do for your fire, access, but I don’t think that whole width needs to be always, you know, really make it clear what is the in and out part of the driveway, and then make and let the rest be plaza and pestrian, if you want it to be a

driveway so that it can function in that way, and I think we would all agree there’s plenty of space here for pedestrians, and sometimes having a little bit more clarity between.

Where do the vehicles go, and where do the pedestrians and bikes go?

Can be really helpful for people to just kind of understand when there’s a lot of heavy foot traffic.

You know what are kind of the ground rules here, and I think.

The I guess the last comment I’ll make, and I would defer to the historic folks on this.

But on the front I caught the front of the building. I don’t know if everybody thinks of it that way, but Embarcadero side of the building.

We have this kind of you know this, these distant views right across from Market Street you have these distant views, and there is a kind of an importance to that facade, I think, and the depth of the facade that you can see from behind the arcade, and seeing that there’s sort of

this layer, which conveys a sort of a passage through the building, and sort of a gravitas of that facade on the backside or the water side, which maybe we should think of as the front side, because it’s the water side.

But that’s fine. That is the more modern side. There’s a lot more intervention there, so that I’m not as bothered by those kinds of interventions on that side to make it a lot more functional for restaurants chosen not to go there for dinner because it was cold and there

was no place to sit that felt warm. So the I just that’s one dimension that I think should be considered.

And then I guess the last point is, I would think it would be a loss if there was.

Less indoor. That was public for public use.

You know these areas that you can get your food and then eat somewhere inside and be warm.

Not just outside. So I think, understanding how the balance of those spaces would pan out would be an important component of public access.

Okay. Thanks. Kristen. Gary, okay. Yeah.

I think there’s probably nobody here who doesn’t understand and support the idea that for our preservation goes hand in hand with reinvigoration, that you know, we all want to see it activated.

Greatest hope is that it remains a place for San Francisco as well as for tourists, and I believe that farmers market really is the heart and soul of the farmers. Market.

From. You know the locals, even though. But locals also patronize restaurants and it’s a place where tourists and San Francisco are on an equal footing, and I think that’s a really wonderful thing.

I hope use that. I wanna talk about the canopies for a moment.

I think that what’s shown the architects intent it’s very encouraging, you know.

They’re very light. They’re open, very transparent, and it implies a kind of mixing of public and private in those areas to capture.

For, you know, restaurant seating and my observation, though, and I think you’ve acknowledged a little bit that once the lease, begins. You know the leaseholder kind of takes possession spaces, and there’s creep you know visiting got got

yesterday, just walking by. I also how there are these large steel bollards that are bolted to the pavement, and there’s horizontal steel bars and there’s a sign that says, you know, basically God’s only customers.

Or something like that. There’s also recycling containers which are blanking, you know.

Entry on the north to the waterfront. Actually both sides there, which is not, which gives the impression of you know I think it incurred.

You know, it’s gives this idea of privatization of the you know, of the the key areas.

While you know, the public area seem to be, or maybe kind of like desirable.

I hope what’s not happening is that the public areas get pushed to the back off the embarcadero.

And you know, to the cold side and that warm side facing the city where everybody wants to be for people watching, because that’s probably the greatest activity of all, the biggest draw of all people watching that becomes a paid activity for, you know, for tourists and high end.

So that kind of brings me to the point about the farmers. Market.

I think it was said earlier that we didn’t have a diagram showing where the farmers market is today, and square footage.

It’s occupying, and in the renders the farmers market is kind of shoehorned into the triangular area.

You know that on the south of the building, and but it’s it’s also a little bit shadyier than I think.

The other. I think it does pick up some building shade, and I just wonder how that’s going to work.

I know that you’ve shown, you know, market stalls everywhere, hundreds of them.

It seems like all over. So I was a little unclear as to where that, you know, the farmer’s market really ends, you know. At the end of the day.

As far as the site. Landscape improvements, I think really want a second what I’ve heard earlier, I think that’s a the tall lights, I mean.

I was thinking, like you need a marker to draw people to the rear of the site.

And yet lights. I don’t know if it’s so much of a nighttime place that the lights are really functioning.

Okay, well, they’re really about the 10 years and the banners and I don’t want it to feel like, you know, like more tourist waterfront.

You know. We know.

That was, and I think that the the polls are.

I think if we think about the site improvement elements as framing devices rather than as objects, they seem to tall, and if they stayed low, like what Tom was saying, lanterns, then they become a framing element for the bay bridge you know a foreground for clash.

The the Graphic on the ground. I’m just not concerned about it all, because I think it’s temporary.

I think it’s. It’s a test. I think it’s you can test urban design ideas with with graphics and signage, very low risk.

But I think it’s really the verticals and the fixed elements that we should, you know, focus on.

Okay, zeroing in here. Almost done. Yeah. The arcades definitely.

The combining element. I think the glass partitions. If they’re done beautifully, it could be wonderful. But there are they going to be.

Are there going to be tracks on the ground? The feel like threshold, so that you’re?

I vote for Gandhi at the end of the pier.

Okay. Thanks. Thanks. Gary. Well, comments.

As an engineer, I feel a little out of place in terms.

Reece. I’m not clear on the effect on movements.

That the Bay front kitchen.

Arcade, enclosures.

Canopy have?

Part of what other people are saying.

Well!

And look, and I just want to make a few comments.

So I’m try not to echo what other been a lot of 1 0 in on that?

Importance.

And I think one of the things I’d like to see.

The.

Permanent public, but in close outside and potentially inside or.

Where that and I know there was. There were quantities. Describe.

Has more than.

You know I don’t mean to that the issues, but you know, when the.

Be plenty of spaces for people.

I just don’t think the balance is, or it may be there, but I’m not.

And it applies equally.

Human comfort, very important.

And somebody brought up. You know the my!

The so, you know.

Up. I think I would like to understand little more about the how the contextual.

And and look you made.

I think, even in relation to.

That the you know there are cues from the weed upon.

Part of the.

Quite correctly used to be water. Now it’s a plaza, all granite.

But you know the other aspects of that, but might actually be a code.

I’m thinking of. I would love to see ways in which places.

But they’re all part of one.

That choices!

I would echo what others said about the signage. I think.

With a a landmark building, signages of.

Very thoughtfully done, and I think what you made when you were presenting about the.

You know. I think.

That all the.

Worth thinking!

And that’s in the.

I I’m not convinced about the kiosk.

More of the.

A comment. Talk about this.

Public access.

I think there needs to be.

Strategy.

And it could be a really.

But I think everyone has.

The you know the comments. What about? Well, I’m going to say safety.

Going to happen in the middle of the night.

But I I think that just providing.

How people.

There are many other great comments.

Sort of make a comment about the statue of. And you know, historically, it’s another element with very interesting here.

And I just like I’m not convinced any of those.

The location on the weed, applause.

Chair. Okay.

So I’m not even sure.

Perfect, and I think you know.

Might be another way to present where it occupies small footprint, but doesn’t mean.

At, the.

If we?

There is a.

And I know it’s not good. I’ve always been concerned about the interface with the Golden Gate, and it’s such a drawback that space and I know it’s not under your control.

But I feel like this is part of the process. I know you have a dialogue with everybody, but I mean even repositioning that statue.

You know the I mean, there are just some very unattractive.

You know, maybe just.

Maybe there’s a simple fix, a little bit more dialogue with your friends. It’s called, and fury terminal, and it might actually enhance the always felt that it it really diminishes.

Something that might help. I think the work that’s being done at the moment for a lot of.

I really think it’s.

Strongly permanent.

Utilizing some higher quality.

You know, just using this as a.

Enhance the.

It doesn’t all have to be.

It works great in many ways. I just think that.

I have a very.

You know the Graphic on the road with her different points.

Would come down on the.

Yeah, place. Like, required access.

I don’t know.

On that I get. Why?

I don’t know. Or maybe there’s another.

So!

So just want to circle back. We’ve heard a lot from a lot of great comments from.

Having Hood. Whatever you anyone weigh in again, build on something been said. That’s very critical.

So about the pavement.

Okay.

So I don’t know. I just slide.

That already exist. That’s another way of emphasizing.

Point, but they are accused of.

Can I say one thing while we’re on the table?

I don’t know if others notice, but the you know the wavy pattern of the there are certain views that are shown where you can tell the.

So I mean, Job is not. Our job is just.

Okay, so look.

A long table here for those who are not in. Does anyone else wanna make a final comment?

Just to address some of what was in our packet.

We did review the page in General Memo and I actually think it’s on the right track in terms of compliance with the Secretary of Interior Standards.

Analysis was thoughtful, but again doubles in the details.

At the end of the day. With regard to how some of the features kind of work with the existing historic building, how you keep it light, and how you keep it transparent.

I do think the moves towards making sure that they will access down the promenade.

I mean in the arcades are really important, just in terms of, you know, keeping that.

What’s historic and what’s important about.

Just said, just since I.

Okay. Anything. Else.

Somewhere else. Okay, I’m just gonna make a short summary.

It’s going to leave out things that are okay.

Jacinda. I think Stephan had his hand raised. Oh, sorry, Stefan.

Sorry go ahead.

Oh, thanks! I just wanted to just raise one last thing about the lighting, and because the the sort of path of gold I’ll say datum, that’s established on Market Street, you know it does wrap around justin Herman Plaza and then it extends along the

embarkadero to the north and south, and it’s pretty civic, you know, and I’m wondering if something within that family of lighting should actually extend to the back of the ferry building, or if there’s an opportunity to sort of think about the civic nature of the

lighting on the city side of all this stuff and extend this sort of the back of the plaza.

And I just I was sort of think it’s sort of something to consider, because it doesn’t seem right to go with the a historic fixture in this location.

But the the visual data that’s established is really strong.

Coming all the way down market and wrapping around that space, and I know that the designers of Justin Hermann that was sort of an intentional act to extend that horizontally.

And so I think that I’m just something to consider when thinking about bringing a light standard behind the building and making that a contiguous public space.

It’s an excellent point, Stefan. Thank you.

Okay. Look, I’m going to, just to a very short summary.

It’s not a complete summary, and staff have taken notes and.

Try and draw out some of the.

So I think you know several comments have spoken to, you know, greater clarity, just delineation of.

A clear picture. What the trade offs are, what the experience will be.

And then, you know, space improvements, you know, just even though the work that’s being proposed is right.

It’s very tactical, but making.

Questions about comments. I think.

Understand more about everything, from the the farmers market through to transition spaces through the interior public.

And again metric.

You know there was the comments, lots of comments about the materials.

No some refinement taking into the history sorry context, or refinement, taking in.

Areas, everything.

I think everyone felt that this, you know, a lot of aspects are moving in the right direction.

More details needed to really understand, to work, get some different opinions on.

Arcade is appropriate.

Permeability very important, and I think you know again as sort of a.

That was.

In this evolution.

About. You know, historic buildings up.

If there is a transition towards more restaurants away from.

Other activities currently in the.

In the middle of it might be hopeful.

From a big picture.

Why the future?

I think. Let’s see.

You know. So again, just on materia materiality.

Some materials to fill.

You know lots of comments about the importance, Marcus.

Interesting comment about lighting lanterns.

We talked about clarity on public property seating.

Very important.

And we talked about. I think one of the.

We are very sensitive. Okay?

And comfort.

Elements in the plaza.

Exactly.

So look, there were lots of other things.

There!

This point, we can move.

Oh, no, we do. But yeah, will they come back, or are you satisfied?

Look there was we had while we were at the break.

I think.

Critical project, an important seat.

So we will now move to the project.

Thank you so much. Members of for Review Board.

A lot. Obviously it’s fun to be in a room.

Care as much about this in the area, right? And I think we want to spend about 70 more hours.

No, I think I have a little bit of a process question in terms of to the extent we have have yourself.

Some are in your summary, recognize disagreements in terms of even opinion amongst the Board members, and especially to the extent that some are it’s not there yet, or whatever I think it will be a little bit hard for us to be able to do to fully hit all of those especially if

there’s opinion, I think we will do our best, and I and there are a number of things that came up as questions after the clarification discussion period was very clear.

Answer across that we fully document with that for the team.

Is there any anything you’d add? I think we’re excited.

We know that this is going to be that project that sets the precedent of the next place, that important building of stature needs to be, and we’ll knit together the important civic spaces around us, more cohesive and highly functional site and building space.

Thank you very much. And one of the things that we always do is we, you know our thoughts are not always completely unified, so we rely on the expertise.

The the staff to be able to interpret what we’re saying and present.

You know, discuss what we.

Make a refund in one area, and then you’ll come back.

We really rely on the expertise our team.

Thanks so much. We look forward to working to a staff to come back with it.

Definitive.

Okay, things.

Talk, about.

Dan anything else.

No, I think there, the summary is quite on target. From what I heard here.

So thank you very much, and we are ready to.

So just a question. The next step is to adjourn the meeting.

Do we need 2 motions or one motion to?

I think we can do it with one motion as long as we include both committees in that motion.

Okay, thanks. For that, Clarice, Kate so concludes our project.

Review for the meeting. It’s been really terrific.

Wdac, and I can’t believe.

Really helpful, so I would like to. Oh, no, I need someone to pull I’d like to make a motion to adjourn the meeting of the Bcdc.

Sign Review Board and the W. W. Water print Design Advisory Committee.

Second.

Hi!

A second, the motion. Okay, all those in favor. Hi, bye, bye, we have a motion.

Second, we have no objection, so thank you, everybody, and good night, and thank you for coming in person.

We really appreciate.

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How to Provide Comments and Comment Time Limits

Pursuant to state law, the Commission is currently conducting its public meetings in a “hybrid” fashion. Each meeting notice will specify (1) where the meeting is being primarily held physically, (2) all teleconference locations, which will be publicly-accessible, and (3) the ZOOM virtual meeting link. If you would like to comment at the beginning of the meeting or on an item scheduled for public discussion, you may do so in one of three ways: (1) being present at the primary physical or a teleconference meeting location; (2) emailing comments in advance to public comment until 10 a.m. on the day of the meeting; and (3) participating via ZOOM during the meeting.

If you plan to participate through ZOOM, please use your ZOOM-enabled device and click on the “raise your hand” button, and then wait to speak until called upon. If you are using a telephone to call into the meeting, select *6 to unmute your phone and you will then be able to speak. We ask that everyone use the mute button when not speaking. It is also important that you not put your phone on hold. Each speaker may be limited to a maximum of three minutes or less at the discretion of the Chair during the public comment period depending on the volume of persons intending to provide public comment. Any speakers who exceed the time limits or interfere with the meeting may be muted by the Chair. It is strongly recommended that public comments be submitted in writing so they can be distributed to all Commission members in advance of the meeting for review. You are encouraged to submit written comments of any length and detailed information to the staff prior to the meeting at the email address above, which will be distributed to the Commission members.

Questions and Staff Reports

If you have any questions concerning an item on the agenda, would like to receive notice of future hearings, or access staff reports related to the item, please contact the staff member whose name, email address and direct phone number are indicated in parenthesis at the end of the agenda item.

Campaign Contributions

State law requires Commissioners to disqualify themselves from voting on any matter if they have received a campaign contribution from an interested party within the past 12 months. If you intend to speak on any hearing item, please indicate in your testimony if you have made campaign contributions in excess of $250 to any Commissioner within the last year, and if so, to which Commissioner(s) you have contributed. Other legal requirements govern contributions by applicants and other interested parties and establish criteria for Commissioner conflicts of interest. Please consult with the staff counsel if you have any questions about the rules that pertain to campaign contributions or conflicts of interest.

Access to Meetings

Meetings are physically held in venues that are accessible to persons with disabilities. If you require special assistance or have technical questions, please contact staff at least three days prior to the meeting via email. We will attempt to make the virtual meeting accessible via ZOOM accessibility capabilities, as well.